Brent's Answer = Remove
🙂 – Happy Remove Friday…… I would call it RF but that could be construed as something else…
I have no room for famous people that will not interact back with me… sorry…
I will take 10 +Robert Scoble 's over one Madonna any day… "Noise" (It's in quotes) and all… I respect anyone that interacts back…..
And it is her PR people not her which is even worse.
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that way!
Can I give that a Plus One Million?
I hear all of you – PR is even worse – then to suggest it – well ok show me why in any way she should be suggested to me? I am pretty sure there is not one thing in any internet history anywhere.. but hey in the end…. it's why we have remove, block and mute…..
I will follow +Alyssa Milano any day of the week – because she actually replies…. very rare, very cool … I know if I was famous, I would interact as well as I possibly could with the people that make my job possible…
I'm no fan of "famous" people who won't interact back too. Whats the point of them being on any social media if they aren't willing to have a discussion back? I don't care to hear about little snippets of their life if they don't want to talk about it.
+Kevin Gault I have an even bigger question – What does that say about the millions that do follow them?
+Brent Burzycki Good question and I just feel like they think they are part of someone's life when they just fool themselves. At least in the case of Robert Scoble, Colby Brown and even Mark Cuban or Mike Dell, they will give an answer back to you if you ask them something meaningful. That's what makes them more important to follow.
The others well they just ride for the glory of something "new" and think they are special throwing their name up. They may like reading comments of "fans" but I doubt they'll take the few minutes to respond. And those that follow them expecting something only kid themselves.
They're on social media in "broadcast mode." Even businesses use "receive mode."
I agree. There might be a couple people I will follow because I understand they may not have time to add everyone, but unless they have a skill set I care about, I am not going to add them just because they are "famous." Hell, I am famous and they did not add me. 😉
LOL! I have done that "remove" too. I like that button! HA!
And I have gone and checked out some of the celebrity profiles…um ok, if all you are going to do is post "here's my video" or "watch me on the tonight show", and never answer anyone, then I don't want your crap cluttering my stream. I can find your video if I am interested…or watch you on the Tonight Show later.
Yeh and I am not on the suggested user list got g+ …. I know I should be 🙂
Had to throw that in there with all the comments going on today..
+Brent Burzycki – ME TOO! I am SO disappointed in that list. What a SHAM! LOL!
How do I find out if I am on the suggested user/follower list? I know I should be.
We all should be because we should be suggested by those that follow us and not a list, it should be based on content produced and not glory or status…..
Yup yup. Oh hell, I should be on the original recommended list, but I can't seem to get on that one. LOL! Probably a good thing – it would just inflate my ego.
I am happy anyone follows me, I sort of feel responsible to produce good posts….. Crummy ones do happen thou…
Feel the pressure!
We all have our days. Heck I was a suggested follow today and I don't post nearly as interesting of content you do. Now I feel obligated to come up with refreshing ideas.
I fellow those that have and post good Photographs and interesting mind thinking posts, or look for help wishing to better their Photography. Apart from that I do not care if you are famous or not. Not seen any Madonna Photographs so chances are she won't end up in my circles
I assume her photos might be very interesting…….. 🙂
well if you like soft core porn related photos then you'd probably love her work weather it was good or bad photography lol
Its not even Madonna posting, its one of her people.
I love celeb profiles that people think are actually the celeb. I befriended "Sam Elliott" on FB and if that is Sam, I am the Flying Nun.
And to think I got excited when Colby Brown replied to me.
+Kevin Gault Well Colby is a nice guy – seems very helpful… has had a rash of success here on G+ because he took a pile of time to put together his G+ guide and also to interact…
Interaction here is key – sadly that will be killed a bit by everyone soon being able to be part of G+ but it was enevitable… I think there is a pretty good core of people here so far – especially photographers…
As long as we do not get totally lost in the noise of "famous" people – gladly we can sort of control this.. I have no issue not being on a list or not being on the front page of users or topics.. If I can post and gets some comments that help me thats all I need…
I reshare what I like, and try to help those that might not be seeing as much as I might for whatever reason… I think thats just being a good citizen here…
It's not rocket science… post interesting stuff and do not flood the stream with crap and most will find you interesting enough to follow..
+Brent Burzycki You are so right. I hope people that are here now stay true to themselves and continued this trend. The photographers like yourself, Colby and Trey do everyone a service by sharing and offering advice. Its only one of the reasons I've come to appreciate what G+ is doing.
Nothing I do is a secret in my photography work………. being a non a-hole real person is the secret to many things thou…..
No one likes a-holes, remember how we got connected? It didn't take long for him to be gone.
I Love G+ because of the people I have found with the same interest and passion with photography I have, for their valid and often thought provoking discussions. For the comments and fed back I receive that help make me a better photographer. for learning from all the inspiring, uplifting, beautiful, and wonderful images people upload and share each day. While also being able to help others as best I am able to. So I will deffently keep interacting on my part.
I've found its not only the photographers. I got a huge uplift by people here after what happened on Monday. I know not everyone is personable but a lot of the people I interact with are good folk and I won't deny the fact they made my week much easier to bear.
But being an aspiring photographer and going about it a slightly different route, having pros who are open and helpful makes it that more fun and intriguing. So one day if I get good enough, I can turn around and do the same.
+Kevin Gault It has been a long week for me . . . what happened Monday?
+Lloyd Brown Lost my job due to lack of work the last 3 weeks, a mistake and a boss who didn't get me even though my coworkers did.
Never had any time for celebrity, and without interaction on some level, there is no point. I like learning from regular folks and people with a unique talent alike. A lot of celebrities are very lucky, and have little talent. Changing clothes to act, having 40 experts help you make your album, etc…. Give me a break 🙂
+Cameron Siguenza lol I agree with your comment whole heartily
+Kevin Gault Sorry to hear that. Lots of people I know have gone through the same thing over the last couple of years. I will tell you the same think I told them. Use this opportunity to grow. Decide what your skill and take it to the next level.
Remember, it was not the miners that got rich in the Gold Rush days, it was the merchants selling products to the miners that cashed in then and continue to do so today.
Most people I know that used this philosophy are better off now than they were working for the man.
Good luck.
Wise words, thank you. I hope to hear something in the next week or two with 13 resumes and 2 headhunters out there looking for me too.
In the meantime, I'm going head first into photography and get myself self settled and less uncomfortable with it. I keep my notebook with what I'm doing and analyzing shots. So I can look at this as a gift; I can't say its a bad thing.
+Kevin Gault always important to set goals that are high and even if your striving for them in the spare time – its always good to have those bigger goals…
+Cameron Siguenza agree….
+Kevin Gault plenty to photograph between Indy & Dayton, like Farmland or Winchester, and all the gajillion tiny places sprinkled around through there.
Thanks for the encouragement and the ideas where to shoot guys. Much appreciated 🙂
Actually, there are countless threads on Google+ on Friday's about who to "circle".
This is just a fun thread that about the cultural bankruptcy of popular culture, one that worships celebrities, irregardless of actual talent.There is a certain type of celebrity who loves having their own little echo chambers of adoring, fawning fans. The celebrity says something via Twitter, Facebook, blog, or Google+ and the crowd goes wild. Maybe many of them will buy a branded product if the celebrity is lucky. Consumption of products is subtly or often strongly encouraged with this type of celebrity.
Google+ is working very hard at attracting celebrities in the hope of mainstreaming google+, since legions of "fans" would come along too. I see various announcements of D, C, B and the odd A lister coming to Google+, or the breathless announcement that someone special showed up in a hangout. Wow.
I will stick to being part of community building here at Google+, I don't need anything extre from celebrities, I either enjoy the product they are part of, or I don't. Nothing extra special about them, they are generally well compensated already, and don't need my adoration. The best kind of celebrity is one that doesn't show up in the public eye much, and has a relatively normal life outside of their movies, books tours, or music gigs.
In this age, celebrity can be achieved by a wide range of people, you can be a half crazed housewife spending money wildly made by other people, a group of idiots from New Jersey, or many other things devoid of actual talent.
Anyways, interacting with Madonna's global PR team seems like an especially big waste of time to me 🙂 I am heading out to take photos up the coast for the rest of the day.
Actual quote on Madonna's page:
"Happy BirthDay Madonna! you are my E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G… I Feel The Luckiest Boy In The World Because You Are In My Life! <3 I Love You Lots Of Love From Mexico! and Mexico Loves You"
+Cameron Siguenza agree…..
+Yoz . It not actually anything – I just made up Remove Friday for this post…. but depending on how G+ goes I might need to make it part of my weekly G+ regime…..plus it does not rhyme so it will not take off……
+Douglas Elimagenero thats quite good…..
I like this idea! I've been observing the activities on the "celebrities", and see that they typically treat this like a content-rich version of Twitter – make a post & disappear, never to be heard from again. Wil Wheaton & Felicia Day are two possible exceptions, but I've noticed that even they rarely contribute anything additional to a discussion once it's taken off.
+Marc Jansen I agree with that… Part of me understands what it is like to be busy… I have 3 jobs – work 18 hours a day on most days, Photography is mainly a hobby to me…yet even I can take a few minutes to reply – especially to my own posts….. I would think people with 1000's or millions of followers should be responsible for their following… yet most are not…. I guess it just goes against my way of being a community member….
Talk crap and walk away is what so much of our society seems to do….. I tend to talk crap and dive right into the middle of it to try to strive for a solution or at least thank people for posting and or defend my position…
I circle people because they post interesting stuff and engage in the comments. famous or not it doesn't matter to me. you could be a rich millionaire with a million followers but it you don't post or just a PR agent post self-gratifying stuff for folks to pander to I see no need to circle you. an unknown with content I am interested in is far more worth my time on G+ than someone famous who does nothing.
It truly is amazing how many of the rank-and-file of G+ actually share this exact same view, yet those who used a Twitter-like shotgun approach to finding new people are the ones giving "advice" on how to use G+. If we cannot either shut that behavior down or at least get a larger voice for the way the real people use G+, we will be completely doomed when they open it up to the rest of the world. I almost wish those of us who are here now could have our own dedicated circle that we could move in, unseen by those who come later…
Ummm… that sounds kind of elitist doesn't it?
That was most definitely not my intent, I assure you – I just think that there's a vital sub-culture blooming here that is all about the quality of their connections, rather than the quantity …
Well as long as good content can bubble to the top… sadly that is usually quashed by terrible resharing of the same thing…..
It's a very difficult problem to solve for Google and the google team…. I want to say people like +Brian Rose +Natalie Villalobos and +Vic Gundotra are here and are listening… but the balance that needs to be achieved is a complex puzzle. Honestly I would love to be involved in trying to solve a puzzle like this because its so intertwined, convoluted and hard to please people it would be an exceptionally difficult problem to solve… I love impossible problems…
For the most part I have been very happy with my experience on G+ – Way more than any other social network.. I do not ask for much as a normal user – I just want interaction and good arguments in some cases and I want to know when I spend the time to type something it might actually help people… well if that is the intent of the post..
Google wants to drive good content… I want a reason internally as to why I just spent 2 hours writing up a huge workflow walkthrough or a lighting example or how to fix a massive computer issue I just had… that content should be what comes to the top for people to see – how Google makes that happen is the question and the problem….
+Keith Barrett had a good suggestion, that google make a circle called recommended users in each of our profiles, we all add folks to the circle we recommend and the back end scrapes that circle for user votes and that is who bubbles up for their new user suggested users list.
Well said, +Brent Burzycki!
+Brent Burzycki "I respect anyone that interacts back….." — Thank you, I needed my sentiments echoed.
+michael interbartolo I have to say +Keith Barrett does bring up a good point… but just like the TOS the google suggested users page is vague as to how or what is being used to determine who that list has in it… I look at the list and most people on it I already follow… hmm so does that make that list really helpful to me? Not really…
I have had decent luck with the Find users in the circles tab thou.. and it also seems to be getting better…
+Brent Burzycki I think the Find People link is useless $.02 I got here early on. I think my girlfriend and the person that gave us the invites were the only people we knew. I left soon after arriving.
Eventually +Tanya Martin convinced me that I should take advantage of my . . . screw it, I don't want to write a book. Obviously I returned.
Since there were only 5 people I knew by then I used the Find People link constantly. If they suggested them, I added them. It was not long before I had 5,000 people in my circles and the limit was hit. In the meantime, Find people kept finding people that it would not let me add.
A couple weeks ago I removed about 4,000 people G+ had "found" since they had not circled me, I figured I did not need the cluttered stream and I would find new people and circle those that were adding me (I could not when I hit 5k). Surprise surprise, the select all feature does not seem to work well when there are more than a few hundred on the list.
So, I can not just add them in one fell swoop, fine, I will add in groups of 100 or so, because I know that used to work. Well, there is no way to easily add 100 people. You have to click each individually. They say they have 1,000 people they found for me but they do not give an easy way to add or sort/view those that they have suggested. A "why" would be cool, but I am not one of those types.
Long story short, that Find People option is a total waste for me and has been for a few months now.
I find people by reading threads like this. This is a bigger recommendation to me than anything Google could offer.
+Brent Burzycki +Mike Keller If I had that kind of time, I would go through every single 'recommendation', see what they've actually contributed to G+, and then name names publicly. Maybe once the API is available I'll be able to create a 'Do Not Bother' list dynamically.
+Ian Atkin Do not Bother list…… I like that… currently I have a WATCH LIST like the government… I put people I think will get booted there to gauge what I should and should not post….:)
+Brent Burzycki I don't know if you saw my post but I did complete an analysis of the Google+ Suggested Users list:
https://plus.google.com/109322383637704271125/posts/SmFJ58Ycs1g