Yeah, nightmare like "don't worry, I doubt the wind will shift badly and turn the area into a giant gas chamber" nightmare.
There's a lot of 'it's only illegal if we get caught' mentality there, to be sure. Not everyone (I do do business there) and certainly not the average joe, they just usually don't blow up like this :/
+Anthony Truss the problem is from what I have been reading the records of what is stored where and with what are not accurate and most likely not shared with emergency crews. You know it cost money to do things right
The problem it seems is they were storing 700 tons of combustibles and not the 70 they believe should have been stored there.. Well that and it all exploded..
That will do it +Brent Burzycki starting to sound like the people that died were murdered by some corporate executives more concerned over profits than safety
Or simply someone that cannot read…. But I assume it's a mix of many issues and regulation problems.. Sadly China is not on the safety hall of fame list…
My computer isn't up to actually Googling anything, so I can't look it up, but my understanding is that because of the proximity of housing, etc., they weren't supposed to be storing anything hazardous there.
(conjecture) it's proibably owned by a high-ranking Party official though, so nothing will ever come of it.
When I heard about the second explosion killing so many firefighters, I wondered if there was a water driven explosion. I can't tell from the photo how deep a crater exists. I would expect a surface explosion to have a modest crater at best, but the photo looks like there is actually quite a deep crater, which I usually associate with an impact. I guess if materials that explode on contact with water were in a basement it would eventually be the place where water would flow, and then with subterranean walls to work against, the explosion would've shaken everything around from the ground up. A real nightmare.
+Stuart Ponder being at the port I doubt there was a basement but you never know. And I bet the water in the crater is sea water the came up from below
Holey crap. Wow that is huge devastation
That's incredibly sad…
I wonder what could produce such energy?
Voltron.
Don't forget the sodium cyanide plume tho.
+Olav Folland oh yes sodium cyanide… That stuff is a nightmare…
Voltron could do that but I Sadly assume… It's cutting corners and safety issues…
Yeah, nightmare like "don't worry, I doubt the wind will shift badly and turn the area into a giant gas chamber" nightmare.
There's a lot of 'it's only illegal if we get caught' mentality there, to be sure. Not everyone (I do do business there) and certainly not the average joe, they just usually don't blow up like this :/
It will be interesting to see if the fire department put water on that mess. Water and many of those chemicals mix explosively..
It's been a few days. I suspect that if they had, it was lost in the commotion. Otherwise there's enough attention that we'd probably hear about it.
Most of the fires are on the fringe AFAIK though. There's not much in the critical areas left to burn, by the looks of it.
So when you put water on Calcium Carbide you make acetylene gas…
So when you poor water on a plant that's full of the stuff that's what you get …
No one knew this ?
+Anthony Truss the problem is from what I have been reading the records of what is stored where and with what are not accurate and most likely not shared with emergency crews. You know it cost money to do things right
The problem it seems is they were storing 700 tons of combustibles and not the 70 they believe should have been stored there.. Well that and it all exploded..
That will do it +Brent Burzycki starting to sound like the people that died were murdered by some corporate executives more concerned over profits than safety
Or simply someone that cannot read…. But I assume it's a mix of many issues and regulation problems.. Sadly China is not on the safety hall of fame list…
My computer isn't up to actually Googling anything, so I can't look it up, but my understanding is that because of the proximity of housing, etc., they weren't supposed to be storing anything hazardous there.
(conjecture) it's proibably owned by a high-ranking Party official though, so nothing will ever come of it.
+Olav Folland its China there will be a scapegoat lynched for sure.
+Bill Zinck sure, some middle-manager that can't prove he was told what to do by higher-ups :/
When I heard about the second explosion killing so many firefighters, I wondered if there was a water driven explosion. I can't tell from the photo how deep a crater exists. I would expect a surface explosion to have a modest crater at best, but the photo looks like there is actually quite a deep crater, which I usually associate with an impact. I guess if materials that explode on contact with water were in a basement it would eventually be the place where water would flow, and then with subterranean walls to work against, the explosion would've shaken everything around from the ground up. A real nightmare.
+Stuart Ponder being at the port I doubt there was a basement but you never know. And I bet the water in the crater is sea water the came up from below